OCMB thread: Sympathy
From: Gerry Armstrong <email@example.com>
Subject: Sympathy and Scientology (was re Scientology’s Holy War)
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On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 03:54:30 -0800 (PST), LaserClam
>On Jan 16, 2:43 pm, rattusrattus <ratzin…@att.net> wrote:
>> Armstrong finally began to tell me fragments of stories about being
>> relentlessly harassed by the church, pursued by its private
>> investigators, run off the road, targeted in elaborate sting
>> operations, slandered at every turn by what he calls “Black PR” and
>> “dead agent packages” and stalked through the US courts. In fact,
>> since last fall, a California court order has been reinstated,
>> demanding that he be remanded to a state jail and pay Scientology
>> $500,000 US for breaking a confidentiality agreement he signed with
>> the church twenty- one years ago. Hence his exile in Chilliwack.
>> Why has the Church of Scientology spent nearly three decades trying to
>> discredit and silence this unemployed, penniless man living on a
>> disability pension in the middle of nowhere in British Columbia?
> Why is Gerry Armstrong penniless
> and on a disability pension?
> Is he trying to satisfy a desire for sympathy?
This really is how Scientology cultists condemn the disabled. It makes the Scientologists right, and the disabled wrong.
Condemning my condition is even worse because it’s scientologenous.
In Scientology, sympathy is viewed and taught as evil, and is impermissible. It is a key meme where the cultists and the wog world intersect, and where rejection of each other’s meaning occurs.
A standard wog definition for sympathy:
1. a. A relationship or an affinity between people or things in which whatever affects one correspondingly affects the other.
b. Mutual understanding or affection arising from this relationship or affinity.
2. a. The act or power of sharing the feelings of another.
b. A feeling or an expression of pity or sorrow for the distress of another; compassion or commiseration.
3. Harmonious agreement; accord: He is in sympathy with their beliefs.
4. A feeling of loyalty; allegiance. Often used in the plural: His sympathies lie with his family.
5. Physiology. A relation between parts or organs by which a disease or disorder in one induces an effect in the other.
And now, Hubbard’s and Scientology’s definition:
SYMPATHY, 1. a terrible thing but is considered to be a very valuable thing. The survival value of sympathy is this: when an individual is hurt or immobilized, he cannot fend for himself. He must count on another or others to care for him. His bid for such care is the enlistment of the sympathy of others. This is practical. If men weren’t sympathetic, none of us would be alive. The non-survival value of sympathy is this: an individual fails in some activity. He then considers himself incapable of Surviving by himself. Even though he isn’t sick actually he makes a bid for sympathy. A psychosomatic illness is at once an explanation of failure and a bid for sympathy. (HFP, p. 122) 2 . sympathy is commonly accepted to mean the posing of an emotional state similar to the emotional state of an individual in grief or apathy. It is on the tone scale between 0.9 and 0.4 .
Sympathy follows or is based upon overt action by the preclear. Sympathy can be mechanically considered as the posing of any emotion so as to be similar to the emotion of another. (AP&A, p. 23) 3 . sympathy is a co-flow, it’s sort of a co-beingness. One individual goes onto the wave-length of another individual. (PDC 23) 4 . “I am him” which is what sympathy is; it’s a low level interchange of energy. (5209CM04B) 5 . equal motion, equal plane, similar space. (Spr
Lect 1, 5303CM23)
SYMPATHY COMPUTATION, if a patient had a tough engramic background, then broke his leg and got sympathy he thereafter tends to go around with a simulated broken leg—arthritis, etc. etc. This is the sympathy computation. It makes a patient “want to be sick.” Sickness has a high survival value says the reactive mind. So it tailors up a body to be sick. (EOS, p. 93)
SYMPATHY ENGRAM, 1. an engram of a very specific nature, being the effort of the parent or guardian to be kind to a child who is severely hurt. (DTOT, p. 95) 2 . a sympathy engram would go something like this: A small boy, much victimized by his parents, is extremely ill. His grandmother attends him and while he is delirious soothes him and tells him she will take care of him, that she will stay right there until he is well. This puts a high “survival” value on being sick. He does not feel safe around his parents; he wants his grandmother present (she is a winning valence because she orders the parents around), and he now has an engram. (DMSMH, p. 107) 3 . the sympathy
engram is one which comes forward and stays chronic as a psychosomatic illness. (DMSMH, p. 107)
SYMPATHY EXCITER, a sympathy exciter is any entity on any dynamic for which the individual has felt sympathy of the variety between 0.9 and 0.4 . Sympathy exciters are most commonly parents, allies and pets. (AP&A, pp. 44-45)
— L. Ron Hubbard
Dianetics and Scientology Technical Dictionary
So by becoming a Scientologist, mutual understanding or affection,
feelings or expressions of pity or sorrow for the distress of another,
compassion, commiseration, harmonious agreement, accord, feelings of
loyalty or allegiance all become a terrible thing. That is, unless the
understanding, affection, loyalty and allegiance are given to the
cult and its leader, and the expressions of sorrow are for the cult
head’s distress, or in execution of his command intention.
Scientologists are in fact taught and drilled to pose any emotion so
as to be similar to the emotion of another, for the Scientology cult’s
purposes — conversion, recruitment, regging, reconversion, fair game,
Sympathizing with Scientology’s victims, who, if wogs, comprise the
“Suppressive Person” class, is in fact a “high crime” in the cult, and
is punished with fair game potentially up to and including
obliteration. See, e.g., Scientology Policy Directive 28 “Suppressive
Act – Dealing with a Declared Suppressive Person:”
“To maintain a line with, offer support to, or in any way grant credance to such a person indicates nothing more than agreement with that person’s destructive intentions and acts. Such dealings in fact act as a covert or overt attempt to undermine and negate the ethics and justice strengths of our ecclesiastical structure.”
The “Suppressive Person” doctrine, which in Scientology scripture also
forwards the goal of obliteration, requires and enforces non-sympathy
throughout the cult. Scientological non-sympathy is actually a
condition of manufactured sociopathy. Sympathy is directly related to
the conscience, and to love itself in fact.
Scientologists often say, among themselves, when the subject of
sympathy arises, that what they in their superior system do is not
sympathy but “empathy.”
Sympathizing is viewed as so contra-survival in Scientology that it’s
specifically prohibited by the Auditor’s Code:
8. I promise not to sympathize with the preclear but to be effective. http://www.doctrinalauditing.org/page02.htm
Being effective, in Scientology’s “tech,” Hubbard is saying, is
mutually exclusive of relationships or affinities between people or
things in which whatever affects one correspondingly affects the
other; mutually exclusive of mutual understanding or affection arising
from this relationship or affinity; mutually exclusive of the act or
power of sharing the feelings of another; mutually exclusive of
feelings or expressions of pity or sorrow for the distress of another;
mutually exclusive of compassion or commiseration; mutually exclusive
of harmonious agreement; mutually exclusive of accord; mutually
exclusive of feelings of loyalty; mutually exclusive of allegiance.
It should be clear that these several facets or expressions of sympathy
that Scientology’s technicians, in order to be effective in their
tech, must not countenance include some of wogs’ greatest virtues and
On “empathy,” Wiktionary’s got it:
1. the intellectual identification of the thoughts, feelings, or
state of another person
2. capacity to understand another person’s point of view or the
result of such understanding
Wikipedia is also instructive:
Empathy is the capability to share your feelings and understand another’s emotion and feelings. It is often characterized as the ability to “put oneself into another’s shoes,” or in some way experience what the other person is feeling. Empathy does not necessarily imply compassion, sympathy, or empathic concern because this capacity can be present in context of compassionate or cruel behavior.
A great number of times in the literature on psychopaths or
sociopaths, an identifying characteristic is their “lack of empathy.”
I think, however, that’s an error, and that what is being observed is
a lack of sympathy.
Sociopaths almost certainly practice empathy more regularly, and even
more deeply than most non-sociopaths. Sociopaths actively pursue the
intellectual identification of the thoughts, feelings, or state of
other persons; and sociopaths clearly understand and seek to
understand other persons’ points of view.
Everyone, to some degree, except maybe for the utterly unconscious or
psychotic, has the capacity to intellectually identify other persons’
thoughts, feelings or states. The amount and quality of the
identification depends on the intellect of the identifier, the time
spent empathizing with any particular subject, and perhaps other
factors. The capacity to understand another person’s point of view or
the result of such understanding is directly related to intellectual
capacity. The intellect can be used for many things and one is
Hubbard undeniably had a high intellect, and he spent an astonishing
amount of time intellectually identifying other people’s thoughts,
feelings and states. He trained and got other people to intellectually
identify other people’s thoughts, feelings and states.
What is done with what has been empathized, that is, intellectually
identified thoughts, feelings or states, will be either sympathy or
non-sympathy. Sociopaths will use their knowledge of others’ thoughts,
feelings or states to victimize them. The conscienceful will use their
knowledge of others’ thoughts, feelings or states to do something much
different from victimizing them.
Scientologists’ TRs, tone scale drills, auditing, sec checking, and
all other parts of its mental system and tech are to intellectually
identify people’s thoughts, feelings or states to control them,
fleece them, enslave them, fair game them or do any number of the evil
things sociopaths do to their victims.
If Scientologists sympathized with the persons they were victimizing
with the knowledge the Scientologists had empathized from those
persons, the Scientologists could no longer be Scientologists.
Scientologists, using the thoughts, feelings or states they obtained
with their empathy tech, can and do, of course, pose or fake sympathy.
Unlike actual sympathy, pretended sympathy is not only permitted but
required and drilled if it serves Scientology’s goals — control,
wealth, power and the obliteration of its victims.
Sympathy is closely related to wisdom. Wisdom is what can be done with
knowledge of any kind, knowledge’s application. The other action that
can be taken with knowledge is stupidity. Wisdom and stupidity appear
to be both mutually exclusive opposites and ends of a scale.
The human will is clearly involved in the choice for wisdom or
stupidity. Stupidity remains stupid, in the face of good evidence that
it’s stupid, by willfulness. Hubbard was as willful as he could affirm
himself to be, and so is his successor David Miscavige.
The knowledge of others’ thoughts, feelings or states can be used
wisely or stupidly. That knowledge can be used to create or destroy
relationships or affinities between people or things. It can be used
to create or destroy understanding or affection, harmonious agreement
or accord, compassion or commiseration, and feelings of loyalty or
allegiance. Scientology teaches Scientologists to use their knowledge
of people’s thoughts, feelings or states willfully for non-sympathy,
which is destructive and really stupid.
© Gerry Armstrong