The awareness of awareness of lying unit

Dear Marty:1

Yesterday you wrote in your article “Are Scientologists Trained to Lie?:”

That is one reason why scientology organizations can smugly count on any scientologist in good standing to comfortably commit perjury for scientology and its leaders. Scientologists can and do perform that feat with the greatest aplomb, without the slightest sense of guilt or remorse for doing so.  I have watched lawyers become dumbfounded witnessing scientologists so perform so facilely while under oath.  Those skills are honed in scientology’s ‘Success Through Communication ‘ course that teaches one to comfortably lie as a supposed social necessity.  They are refined in lengthy, arduous witness coaching sessions with scientology legal staff (sessions that are promptly and conveniently forgotten upon command by the scientologist’s cultivated ability to create his own reality).  Connected to legal proceedings or not, the scientologist’s subjective universe view reins so supreme that he can even be unaware that he is lying through his teeth while doing so. [Consider the homophones, Luke.]

This state of unawareness should not be considered an acquittal for the dishonest scientologist.  That is because every scientologist at some point makes a conscious decision to enter the mindset of permanent self-deception.  It is crossing that line where conscience is consciously overridden in favor of whatever promised fruits await to award faith. 2

Describing the Scientology v. Armstrong trial in LA in 1984 in Memoirs of a Scientology Warrior, you wrote:

Flynn had also torn apart our witnesses so thoroughly on cross examination that our side was consumed with worry over the downsides of calling any further witnesses. Harris had warned of this possibility before trial, noting that going to trial at all in a Scientology case had two huge downsides. First there was the long history of documented bad acts the opposition could dredge up to color the proceedings. Second, as he put it, “Scientologists are too honest.” He explained that virtually anyone else who testifies in court knows how to hedge and forward and protect his own position, and has no qualms about treating the opposition attorney as an enemy, showing no cooperation. But Scientologists, he maintained, are so trusting and honest that they wind up cooperating with and even assisting their cross examiners. Harris had created a “witness school” for the very purpose of coaching Scientology witnesses to handle themselves better. Apparently this had backfired under Flynn’s blistering cross examinations; he made those coached look contrived, exposing them as playing games with the truth.

Harris, of course, was lying about Scientologists’ being too honest to make good witnesses. He created witness school to get Scientologists more comfortably committing perjury for scientology and its leaders.

Remember your first email to me:


I have a hard time following your communication. There are some critical differences between you and I:

a) You were willing to lie and did. I’m not.

b) You decided to become a victim, and relish it so much you’ve continued to be one to this day. Everything you utter is through the prism of a victim and to the degree that it is refracted as such, it is false. I am devoted to helping people from entering the dark, dank dungeon of victim-hood.

c) You sold out  twenty-three years ago – and are apparently still mad at yourself for the indelible taint it left. I will never sell out.

If you made a genuine reach to reverse the downward spiral a-c set you on then I’d be glad to assist in your about-face and ascent.


Recall too what Hubbard wrote in HCO PL January 31, 1983, “The Reason for Orgs:”

I have never lied to you or conned you and what I tell you now is true.

That couldn’t have possibly been true for you. You were right then looking at a mass of his lies to Scientologists that were being debunked in litigations that you ran, and in media you had to handle. I realize your handling in courts, media or anywhere else was to attack the attacker, and not deal with Hubbard’s lies; but you had to have known he was lying about never lying to people or conning them. Your consciencelessness and power – the promised fruits of your lying – were not really attainable unless your lying was willful. Scientology’s power is in hypocrisy, not in integrity as Scientologists aver.

I’m certain you recall that Hubbard quote in an article I wrote “SCHUMCO’s Defense Tech,” which I referred you to in an email on February 5 this year.3
I wrote you because, as I said, you had victimized many wogs over many years in SCHUMCO’s service, and Memoirs showed you still were doing it to us.

I have been dealing with Scientologists lying and L. Ron Hubbard lying for forty-five years. My article from three years ago “Why won’t Marty and Mike tell the truth?” deals with the lying of Scientologists who knew they were lying, like Mike Rinder and you. Some Scientologists certainly didn’t know you were lying, and you lied to them to keep them trapped.4

After that, you added a bookload of lies about me, and some of your other victims, in Memoirs. You have done nothing to correct or even acknowledge the lies that have been identified for you in your book, let alone the lies you know are lies but haven’t yet been called on.

Unlike perhaps some of your witnesses in your witness school, you did know you were lying through your teeth about me, and about the Armstrong op, the Flynn frame, and all sorts of other anti-public policy activities. You committed perjury, comfortably or not, for scientology and its leaders, in court, in my cases, and many other cases, to law enforcement, to officials throughout governments, and, vitally, to the IRS.

Your lies in service of Scientology, Hubbard, Miscavige, et al., about the efficacy of the tech, the ethics of the group, its control, the victims, both private citizens and government officials, caused great harm. Your uncorrected lies, in all the records you have made privately, publicly or in legal proceedings, still cause harm. Your lies still serve the Scientologists’ evil purposes. You continue to help Miscavige harm good people more than a shipful of his Sea Org servants who polish his shoes or his handle. Your lies shine up his very operating scope. Metaphysics or advanced theoretical physics as dodges are dodgy.

It always was the time for you to tell the truth. That is just as true now. And it will set a lot of captives free.