[On ESMB] Caroline said:
Scientologists Mike Rinder, Dan Sherman, Dave Kluge and others ran the Loyalist Program on Gerry (1984-5)…
[On ESMB] Mark Plummer responded:
I have always wanted to know if Gerry was intending to create false documents. I get that idea because of what he said here:
Exhibit A: Transcript of Meeting between “Joey” and Gerry Armstrong (November 7, 1984)
From http://armstrong-op.gerryarmstrong….een-joey-and-gerry-armstrong-november-7-1984/<begin quote from transcript>
J … I need to know, like, what your strategy is regarding these type of things and what we’re looking at doing. (showing him docs)GA Well, I got a view, of course, from you, of course, that someone at
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[legal] considered that I HELP was you know, their Achilles heel, as it were. (laughs) So we thought, shit, shouldn’t I get some I HELP materials, so hence I asked. Now issues, I wanted to know number one, how they’re run off, what the type face is like, are these like this? You know…
J These are the real McCoys.
GA You see, because I think that during a part of this, we can simply create these, you know, I can create documents with relative ease (laughter), you know, I did it for a living! (laughs again)
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That is a long and constant time to want to know this thing. I have to acknowledge that. You want to know something, or rather have always wanted to know something, that is seemingly so unimportant, being thirty-five years ago, and already discussed, and yet so vital that you always wanted to know it. I have always, it could be said, wanted to know God, but that’s nothing unusual. All kinds of people live their lives wanting to know God. I can’t think, however, of some this-world detail, like someone’s intention, I always wanted to know.
I do realize that the idea that I wanted to create false documents, along with getting them into Scientology files, is the Miscavige Scientologist conspirators’ assertion — or really its malignant PR. If you really have always wanted to know what you say you always wanted to know, you have always wanted to know if what the Miscavige conspirators have been saying for thirty-four years is true.
I will definitely answer. But first, how about if you get statements from your connections who were in the cult when the conspirators ran their op and then made their charges about my intentions. Mike Rinder, of course, was CO OSA US and a key conspirator during that the unlawful videotaping.
How about if you post a public request to him, just as you have for me? He is, after all, the perpetrator, the entrapper, the liar, the criminal framer, with a billions dollars, sick PIs, a corrupt LAPD officer, video editors, lawyers and equipment to do it all, and I am his simple out-at-the-ass victim. He has also never spoken up about the malignant PR he propagated against me, including malignant PR about the video op, other than to reinforce it all. It might be true that he was the cult head’s personal masochist during the period he was doing the op against me, but that doesn’t affect the truth about his actions.
Please don’t be afraid of calling out or challenging Mike Rinder. Or is there nothing you’ve always wanted to know about his actions, his intentions?
Cc: Mike Rinder